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31  Forum / General Discussions / Re: So has anyone official even confirmed that Ozzfest 2012 is still happening? on: May 06, 2012, 06:51:00 am
Yeah I hope I'm proven wrong but it just looks like Ozzfest is dead.  It's pretty late now.  I remember I was away on a fishing trip and had to buy my Ozzfest 2010 ticket in May but we knew ahead of time that year that it was only going to be a limited amount of shows.  I think the greatest traveling festival ever has been laid to rest and we fans weren't even invited to the funeral.
32  Forum / General Discussions / Re: What are you listening to now?! on: May 05, 2012, 08:17:57 am
King Me - Lamb of God
33  Forum / General Discussions / Re: So has anyone official even confirmed that Ozzfest 2012 is still happening? on: May 03, 2012, 10:14:38 pm
Either that or they are just letting it die without fair warning
34  Forum / General Discussions / Re: So has anyone official even confirmed that Ozzfest 2012 is still happening? on: May 01, 2012, 07:13:36 pm
They are giving a sweeter deal to the 2nd stage bands.  Ozzfest charges them 75k to go on that tour.  Mayhemfest doesn't charge them, but actually PAYS them.

any idea how much?  do they cover their travel expenses and pay per diems?  or insurance?

I know I've ranted about this before but that $75K is an investment to keep out the boogers.  it's like a security deposit on your apartment except you get it back from the fans.  it insures that you are not booking a bunch of idiots who aren't ready for the big time.  and if they come off that tour turning on new fans who buy their shit and come back for more they have done their job.

back when I helped my friends' bands get gigs years ago, to insure that the bar wasn't going to be empty for a unknown new band, the booking agent made us buy $500 worth of tickets and do whatever we wanted to do to get our asshole friends to show up.  we could give them away (we used to run contests with our local metal station), sell them for whatever we could get for them and that's what we got paid.  after we packed the place
they got paid very nicely after that with regular gigs.

if you didn't learn the very valuable marketing lesson from that experience, stay out of the music business.

Yeah I wonder about all the ins and outs too.  Sharon is very hush hush about the contracts and stuff.  I heard the 2nd stagers got a share in the profits even with paying $75K, a small share but in Ozzfests hay day a small share went a long way and probably covered or came close to covering the $75K.
35  Forum / General Discussions / Re: SLAYER news on: May 01, 2012, 07:08:35 pm
Great news for Jeff!  I hope he makes a full recovery.  In time he will rejoin Slayer full time!
36  Forum / General Discussions / Re: So has anyone official even confirmed that Ozzfest 2012 is still happening? on: April 30, 2012, 10:09:39 pm
There it be then.  I think I'd still pick to be on Ozzfest if I was a new band.  Not that it's an option in 2012 but still just look at how many bands have made it big and others have had solid careers coming from the Ozzfest 2nd stage.  It was a good breeding ground.
37  Forum / General Discussions / Re: What are you listening to now?! on: April 30, 2012, 10:07:31 pm
Oh yeah, well I'll just throw on some Led Zep II  Tongue
38  Forum / Other Upcoming Events / Zombie/Megadeth/Lacuna Coil on: April 29, 2012, 07:07:03 am
Who's going and where?

Me:  May 16th Pittsburgh @ Stage AE.

I saw Megadeth and Lacuna in New York for Gigantour and definitely don't mind seeing them again.  It's probably been about 10 years since I have seen Zombie.  This should be a good show!
39  Forum / Random Crap / Re: Whatever happened to.... on: April 29, 2012, 06:59:44 am
Torture Queen
Stevenstrong
CJ
First Ozzy Fan
Middle Finger
Missceeangel

Etc
Etc
Etc?

Torture occasionally posts, Stevenstrong has thrown a comment or two in here and there, CJ I haven't seen anything from him in a long time, First Ozzy Fan I think posted once relatively recently but not much, Middle disappeared and I haven't noticed a post from Missceeangel in at least two years.  I'll say right around the time of Ozzfest 2010.
40  Forum / General Discussions / Re: So has anyone official even confirmed that Ozzfest 2012 is still happening? on: April 29, 2012, 06:56:59 am
Also, Mayhemfest has probably been making it hard to get some bands (you've got to admit, they use a lot of bands that Ozzfest would like).

Most Definitely.  Not sure if maybe Mayhemfest is offering a sweeter deal for bands than maybe Ozzfest but Mayhem seems to be beating Ozzfest to the punch the last couple of years.  Overall I'd take an Ozzfest over a Mayhem, but that doesn't seem to be a choice anymore.
41  Forum / Ozzy / Re: Bark at the Moon 30th Anniversary in the works? on: April 28, 2012, 10:16:43 pm
with all the drama with Bob Daisley I doubt its going to get very far

Very true.  Again it's not my favorite album from Ozzy but I wouldn't mind seeing some behind the scenes stuff or rare live cuts.
42  Forum / General Discussions / Re: So has anyone official even confirmed that Ozzfest 2012 is still happening? on: April 28, 2012, 10:31:16 am
It really is unfortunate.  It's been such a great festival over the years.  But the way it's run, is one big clusterfuck.  Especially when you see every other major festival posting dates and lineups in January.  What's annoying is, they always know dam well what their plan is, but they don't find it necessary to let the fans in on it.  They choose to wait till the last I is dotted and the last T is crossed before they deem it necessary to let the fans in on the most basic amount of info.  Like if there's actually gonna be a fest.  It's even harder on the kids who don't have a lot of money and need that much more time to plan and get the cash together.  The kids make up a huge portion of the base too.   But I do understand why this year things would be sort of up in the air.  

In the past 6 years I'll say with the Ozzfests we've had it definitely has been a clusterfuck.  I think Sharon is too busy doing her TV gigs to really focus on putting anything together and Ozzy, well it's just not his thing to organize.  This year obviously with Iommi's cancer and Ward's hold out has put a strain on any planning.  I was hoping for an end of the world best Ozzfest ever to be pulled out of Sharon's ass but that was wishful thinking.  I mean how cool in 2012 would it have been to send Ozzfest off once and for all with a killer lineup and big tour.  Just one last time.  I mean next year if they would do that it would be nice but being 2012 and the end of the Mayan calendar and all that stuff, a big end all Ozzfest would have been perfect.
43  Forum / General Discussions / Re: So has anyone official even confirmed that Ozzfest 2012 is still happening? on: April 27, 2012, 08:53:21 pm
Give it another couple of weeks.  It wouldn't be ozzfest if they gave people advanced notice. 

That's the unfortunate truth.  I remember the first 5 or 6 Ozzfests used to announce the lineup in late january, then the tour dates announced in february, then in march they went onsale, and by end of may, early june Ozzfest started.  It was plenty of time to gather up the dough.  I miss those days.  Now for any band it's announcement, 2 days later tickets on sale for an event that won't happen for another 6 months to a year.
44  Forum / General Discussions / Re: Montreal Heavy MTL Festival July 24th on: April 27, 2012, 08:49:38 pm
Why can't that be a tour?

I agree!  Add Ozzy and Friends and call it Ozzfest!
45  Forum / General Discussions / Re: So has anyone official even confirmed that Ozzfest 2012 is still happening? on: April 27, 2012, 05:18:29 am
Alright I'm getting a little bit ancy, I'm not sure that they've ever announced an Ozzfest this late. I think last year it was around May 10th that they announced that there WOULDN'T be an Ozzfest, although I could be mistaken.

I'm sure we'll get word soon, one way or another.
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